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Joe Tognetti

Shayne,

Good summation of what drives you to do what you do; I've really enjoyed how you challenge your readers in the areas you talked about, particularly as it relates to the blood of Christ and spiritual warfare (the latter of which I honestly have ignored most of my life).

However, I have one question: As someone who's attended Catholic, Presbyterian, and Methodist schools and churches, I've NEVER heard of a distinction between our spirit and our soul. By our spirit being independent of our soul, do you mean that our spirit is how our body and soul connect to the Holy Spirit? Do you mean to equate our spirit with our emotions? Maybe I've been missing something all these years, but I was really confused by that.

Thanks for any clarification you can provide.

Blessings,

Joe

Ray Worsham

Really enjoyed your post. I believe we (active christian churches) actually do fair job with prayer, and not bad with the word, but at least in many Methodist and mainsteam protestant congregations really neglect the Spirit and ignore spiritual warfare. Many methodist pastors I know seem to fear the Holy Spirit - or have had the spirit wrenched out of them at seminary.

Shane Raynor

Joe,
Good question... and it's not easy to answer because it's not easy to understand, at least for me. Scripture talks about the three parts of human beings... one verse that comes to mind is 1 Thessalonians 5:23: "May the God who gives peace make you holy in every way. May he keep your whole being—spirit, soul, and body—blameless when our Lord Jesus Christ comes. (GWT)"
The body is sort of easy to comprehend, but I don't think the dividing line between the spirit and the soul is as easy. In fact, Hebrews 4:12 tells us "God's word is living and active. It is sharper than any two-edged sword and cuts as deep as the place where soul and spirit meet, the place where joints and marrow meet. God's word judges a person's thoughts and intentions." This scripture tells me that it's not easy to distinguish between the two... the place where soul and spirit meet is hard to define. Perhaps this is an oversimplification, but I view the human soul as the intellect, emotions and will and the human spirit as that part of us that relates directly to God. Hopefully I can write more completely about this soon.

Daniel

I have looked into the spirit/soul distinction in several Christian reference books and the writings of the Early Fathers. It seems that some make a distinction - our spirit is our "life" and our soul is our "rational part" capable of relationship with God and his will, but large parts of the Christian tradition simply use these terms interchangeably. Certainly they are connected - as body and soul are connected.

John Meunier

Shane,

You say you select these five because they are neglected.

I'm curious what you think the 'five words' of Christendom are if none of these make the list.

On the "blood" issue, the early conversations about the new UM Hymnal included a significant ground swell to get rid of "happy clappy blood" songs. The adults are not supposed to sing them either. No word on whether that excludes 'O For a Thousand Tongues to Sing.'

Joe Tognetti

Shane,

Thanks for the clarification. You learn something new everyday. Thanks also to Daniel for following it up; I'll look into it more myself.

P.S., sorry I keep botching your name by adding a "y" in your first name!

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